Episode #36: Overhyped Fantasy Football Picks & Draft Strategy

Show Transcript

Welcome back everyone to the Sport Shots pod. My name is Isaiah. I’m here with Kyle. There’s Kyle’s chair. Nothing has changed. All I did was just move an inch. I swear all I swear there’s one coming on Amazon in about a month. His left butt cheek twitched and it just made that sound.

Uh, this is episode 36, I believe. We’re going good. Um, I’ll be excited to hit episode 52 because that means like it’s that’s like one a week throughout a whole year. So, I’m, you know, I’m pretty proud of that. I don’t know why 52 just sounds like a good number for a pass rusher or a middle linebacker. You can think of one in particular. I’m thinking of the other one.

Okay, let’s see if let’s see how well we know each other. Let me guess who you’re thinking and you guess who I was thinking. You go first. What was I thinking?

Okay. I’m thinking you’re thinking Ray Lewis.

Okay. You’re thinking Patrick Willis.

Yeah. Oh my god. Yeah, I was. I’m not even going to lie. Oh my god.

Okay. Oh. All right. I know you too much. I know. That’s that’s how I know we’ve been doing this pod for too long and how long we’ve been talking football with each other for too long. Oh, for sure. For longer.

Um anyway, let’s get on to, you know, our pride and joy segment. What’s in the cup today? It’s for me it’s what’s in the bottle. I have a decanter here that I need to refill. I just can’t make up my mind of what I want to fill in. I mean, usually people fill in their decanters with like whiskey, but I’m thinking of putting tequila in mine, but I’m not too sure. But what? I’m fine. I didn’t even hear what you were drinking cuz I had to get up. I got—

No, I’m just saying actually mine I’m drinking beer. That’s what I’m drinking. But I need to find a liquor to put in the decanter. It was a gift from one of my good friends for my wedding. So now I can go back in four years and you haven’t opened it.

No, no, it’s open. It’s it’s been used. I just like I’ve drank all that’s that that was in here already.

Oh, so it’s a souvenir right now.

Yeah. But I want to refill it with something nice. So if you listen to this on Instagram or YouTube, leave a comment and I’ll try it. Whatever you say, I’ll put it in here besides piss. Don’t say piss.

Okay. Well, now we know who the pot is of the podcast. Well, what are you drinking? You just got out of a good workout.

Yeah. And I’m still drinking water because I’m still on them pills. Man, them headaches is killing me, man. It woke me up out my sleep the other night. I have to try to sandwich my head with the pillow and that didn’t help. I actually had to get up and look for that pill bottle. I was like, this some bullshit. Damn. Out of nowhere I’ve been dealing with this.

Mhm. That sucks. Enemy tries uh you start to be on the come up and the enemy will try to strike something on you. That’s just how it would be. That’s how it’s always how it be.

It was all right. Yeah. Now, I don’t got any—

First of all, big news. Let me uh I got some news. Fuck you and fuck and that that author or that writer, whoever who put Texas first and Houston last. I’m still pissed about that shit. You cut me off from last week. I did. Oh, I did. I’ll do it again. I’m just kidding.

Throwback just a little preview of our previous episode, you know. Yeah, I had to get that off my chest. Yeah. And then last episode I also put like some I put our intro music I put it throughout the whole podcast is very low very soft so it should help hopefully the guest likes the uh the mellow beats.

Yeah, exactly. Cuz it’s always good to like hear something in the background instead of just our chair which I’m starting to think or my son. I’m starting to think this chair is kind of like should be the staple. It’s kind of like my identity now.

Yeah, you got to keep it now. You could buy a that $1,000 setup. You got to keep the chair. I actually I actually eventually want this to go into like video based where we have like our cameras on. I just want I want a better background. Can you imagine when we’re in the same room?

I’m recording in your restroom right now. What are you talking about?

Oh my god. Yeah, I got the door closed cuz man, I’ve been ripping them lately.

Oh goodness. I bet I’ve seen I’ve heard I’ve heard in your house.

Yeah. Yeah. Uh Kyle leaves but the smell stays.

Oh yeah, that’s my sister. I was very well known for, you know, the whole walking in a room, let off a silent one, and then walk out and then about I know 10 seconds later, chemical warfare all the time. More deadly than those stealth fighters that they sent.

Speaking of which these stealth fighters and these B-52 jets. Since we’re talking about war, bro, I I’m not— Here’s some thing. I got some new fears and some shits that I’m not going to do anymore. One, I am definitely not living any more west in Minnesota because mountain lions. I think I talked about that. Um, two, I think I could take a mountain lion, but that’s it. I’ll just—

All right. All right. All right. Well, when you do, I’ll be sure to tell Christie and Josiah that the same thing you said to me when we were playing COD and I died a hero and what you would say to my family at the funeral. I’m going to do that same shit to you. I don’t know what you’re talking about people. We were playing we were playing I ran as I normally do. I charge when he told me not to. I’m you know I’m guilty for doing that a lot of times. And I said, “Well, at least I die a hero. When I give my purple heart, you can, you know, when they present it to the family, you can tell them how, you know, I was a good soldier.” And I ran and I ran into the line of fire. To which you responded by saying, “Yeah, I’ll be sure to let them know how you ran the other way.”

Yeah. I think I said he ran like a coward and got shot in the back. So, I’m going do I’m going to do the same shit to you if you take on that mountain lion. I be like, “Yeah, he was idiot.”

I read an article that uh a hiker actually fought a mountain lion and he ended up killing it and the dude was only like 170. That had to have been a small lion, man. That had to been small.

Well, cuz cuz mountain lions aren’t big. I think like they get like maybe 150, maybe 180. They’re big. They— That’s a fucking lion in the goddamn mountains.

No, no. I get that, right? But if if you if you ask me like would you rather fight a mountain lion or lion? I’m fighting a mountain lion.

Oh well yeah I’ll yeah I’ll take my chances with that. I have I I’m not faster than a mountain lion. I’m not more agile. I don’t have more stamina. I just outweigh it. And you know I assume I’m I’m stronger than it. You know that’s it. I’m fighting the closest rock and bat shit. That’s what I’m doing. I’m like you know you bat shit crazy. That’s what uh yeah, so I ain’t I ain’t dealing with them.

Um what else? What else? Uh now I just want to put out there I’m not going to go and hunt one. I’m just saying if the encounter ever came, boy, you’ll be you’ll be the one being hunted.

Exactly. Exactly. I’m not I’m not looking for them. They’re looking for me out there, you know? I’m not in trying to go go find trouble. Let’s see what else. Um yeah. Um, so there’s not living out west because I don’t want to any homes they build, they’re taking up their land, so they’re going to be prowling around. I’m not going I’m definitely not getting in helicopters. We know why. Um, I’m starting to not want to get in airplanes. There’s too many fucking near misses, if not all outright crashes. I I’m starting to re I’m been people always uh especially when I was in DC would look at me crazy for driving back from DC to Texas. I’m like fuck I ain’t flying. First of all, I got to pray that that pilot came to work on a good day in a good mood. That’s number one. Number two, I got to pray everyone else came in on a good mood. And then you got to deal with crackheads who want to act a fool on a damn plane. Then they got to divert the flight. You got to deal with all that shit man. It’s too It’s too many variables that you can’t control when you’re in a plane. I rather not deal with it. So I I I fly when I have to because I I have no other choice. But if I as Isaiah, you know, I will drive. Cow’s been to the west coast, to the east coast, and to the south, and now to the north. And driven all the time. I will I will drive my ass there. He has outlined the United States on his uh Google locations. The only corner of the country where I haven’t driven to was up to Seattle, which northeast. Yes. Well, well, I’ve been in Boston. Northwest. Northwest. Sorry. I was looking at my camera and it was backwards.

Yep. Yep. You’re backwards. No, you just don’t know your geography. I’m just kidding.

Oh, I know my geography. Come on. Uh, let’s see what else. So, there’s planes. Um, water. Yeah, I already don’t know how to swim. So, no. Guess what race Kyle is? I’m just kidding. I smell smells like you eat chicken.

He’s black. He could say it. Calm down. Sit down. Sit down. Um, yeah. I’m I’m not I’m not getting under water. That includes cruises, jet skis, all that shit I ain’t doing that. Especially cruises. I don’t— First of all, Isaiah, just like just what you just said. I’m black, right?

Yes. This is true.

We was forced here into this country on a boat. How the fuck am I going to get on one voluntarily? I don’t know. I don’t know.

No. So, that’s the next one might might end up in a better place. I’m just all kidding. Remember when COVID struck and that and that one ship was stuck out in the sea? Fuck that.

Oh, dude. That’s true. Oh my goodness. Fuck that. There was one cruise ship that had a passenger with it. He was like, he wasn’t patient zero, but like he was one of the early packed in there like sardines. Nope. Nope. Nope. Ain’t doing it. Not doing it. You remember like when the United States confirmed its first ever like COVID case and everyone was like, “Oh my gosh.” And then millions got COVID after that. It just fell through the— Anyway, I’m not going to go back and you want to put on the tinfoil hat now.

No, no, no, no. I’m not that. We’ll stop it there. We’ll stop it there. This is a sports podcast. And while we’re talking about shit that I won’t do because I’m just afraid of it now and I’d rather just live and keep my feet on the ground.

Amen. Amen. Yeah, I think those are the— How many was that that I gave? Was that three that I said?

Four. That was enough. That was four. That’s what that was. Yeah, that was four. It was— So, it was— That was enough. Living out west because I don’t want to be out because I like being outside. I don’t want to deal with mountain lions. No helicopters. Yep. Extremely limited on planes. and nothing on the water.

Staying my eyes only. All right. Now, on to sports or how’s life treating you?

Uh, it’s good. It’s going good. We I mean, we we talked, we’ll say off air or before recording, you know, got big things starting up for my family. So, pretty happy with that. Um, I’m going to be starting to study for another test. hopefully did the the final test that I would take and I pray it’s a it’s a one and done and you know work up my way in a career and then get my own own office and so that’s doing great. I got back into creating Excel models. Uh I want to get prepared for NFL season so—

Oh yes. Yes, we got to work on that. Yes. All right.

you know using using point ratio and probability been doing my own research and watching YouTube videos and I have a good grasp of what I need to do. Yeah I was doing doing for baseball but then I stopped cuz I was like baseball’s only more than halfway done. There is a lot of numbers. That’s why I got excited and I was getting getting it to where I wanted to be but I was like I’m going to finish this maybe in a week in two weeks and then what I only get to use it a fourth or a quarter of the actual season. So, I decided probably to pause that. I’m gonna switch to a football one. That’s still NBA template.

Yeah. And then with our NBA template, we we’ll just refresh it for next season. You know, that’s that’s that’s basically what what’s going to happen. Yeah. People, we’re trying to become bookies.

Yeah. This is the side gig. You know, this this podcast is going to turn to a documentary of how our bookie career started. We were just hinting at it first and then we finally created something that’s useful and it just took off from there. Who we hiring as an enforcer?

Mining your cats. At least my cat.

Oh, definitely your cat. Your cat already got a body to his name.

Oh, he does, man. Guy’s crazy. Very cuddly with with us. But strangers, do you just walk by? He’s swapping at them at them. Achilles. I’ll tell you that.

Yes, he does. Yeah. But we we we definitely for sure. I would love it if FanDuel DraftKings just, you know, became legal in Texas, but that’s not happening. So in Oklahoma for that that that’s where this model will will shine. So but anyway that’s it. That’s that’s it for mine.

I don’t if you you want to share any any updates.

Nah, I’m good. The only update I got, well, the only update I want to I want to share is whatever comes for the Astros because we got to do something.

Yeah. And we’ll get we’ll get into that. But let’s move on to our first topic. The NFL is back in July this Thursday. Still still kind of blows my mind. The Los Angeles Chargers versus the Detroit Lions in the NFL Hall of Fame game. First preseason game of this of the year is in July. It’s the last day of July, but it’s still in July. Um, I’m excited, but I’m telling you truth. I don’t know. Okay. Well, I’m I’m I’m excited, but I’m also shocked that it’s starting so early. Like, hold on. Wait. I still need to sign up for the Sunday ticket. Give me give me a chance. you know.

Oh, sorry. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I had a um I had a little bit of Tourette’s right there. Sorry.

Mhm. Tourette’s, he says. Nothing. I didn’t say anything. Now, um I mean, you just get excited about preseason because that that just means football is almost here. I used to get excited about preseason. I do. I still do, but not as a general, just for like my team, you know. Now I’m just like because they are I mean it was already meaningless, but because they’re, you know, they’re cutting back on it, you know, just terrible to get to the damn season. Most of the guys don’t, you don’t see, you know, your main starters anyway. You know, they’re just getting their reps in. So, just get ready. just go to week one where we watch bad football for like the first two weeks until everyone actually gets their feet wet, which is what the preseason is for.

Yeah. Uh agreed. Now what always sucks is that some starter or star player gets hurt during preseason and I’m just waiting football. what that name.

No, I agree. I agree. But it’s just it’s always it’s always somebody. Could be on your team.

Oh, yeah. That’s true. Could be on mine. That’s true. You know, sometimes it’s quarterback, receiver, but that shit happens. Now, who are you most excited to to watch besides your team like or player or you can even be on your team like a player that you’re just excited to see?

So, like on my team, it’s obviously Drake Maye, right, with with the new coach, uh new offensive line, new weapons. But the person I’m excited to see is uh Brian Thompson Jr. for the Jaguars and I can also throw in Malik Neighbors cuz we have more LSU great receivers coming into NFL besides Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase who are arguably the best receivers right now. also LSU play with Joe Burrow. And now we got two more. And so you you you know the the excitement. It’s always the it’s it’s always the superstar receivers that get fantasy owners hyped, that get fans hyped. They do the little dances. All the kids start copying them. The dance then goes into Fortnite. You know what I’m talking about. You know what I’m saying? But my favorite position though is is um tight ends and the Colts drafted the tight end out of Penn State. You know, the big big bruiser guy. Oh. So, uh yeah.

Yeah. I know exactly what you’re talking about. I was wondering where he went. Yeah. He wasn’t the the first tight end taken. Actually, the— Wait a minute. I thought the Colts took him.

Yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. That’s what I said.

Oh, okay. Okay. Okay. No, I thought you were still talking about them on the Patriots.

No, cuz— No, no, no, no, no. Cuz like cuz and what made me immediately think the Colts was like, “Yeah, it’s just like the Colts, they needed their they they needed this generation’s Dallas Clark.” And I was like, “Oh, wait a minute. He’s on the on the Patriots.” But um—

No. Yeah. Yeah. He’s on the Colts. Tyler Warren 6’5″ 256. Like like I like I’ve told Christie and other friends, you have to be born a tight end. Yeah. Tight ends are are born. They’re not something that you could develop into size-wise. I mean, it starts from pregnancy. I mean, the minute the minute you find out it’s a boy, you got to start eating. Start eating more.

Exactly. Keep eating. That’s why that’s why my my baby boy has had red meat back-to-back nights. I said he’s going to be a catcher.

Yep. And so, but yeah, just Tyler Warren’s a guy who could block, who could run, who could catch. So, I just, you know, it’s excited to see another Gronk, another George Kittle. Like you said, that Dallas Clark, right? Just those those type of of tight ends. Yes, there’s a Brock Bowers who was at least a freshman and will get a 100 catches. He’s the next Travis Kelce probably. So, you know, a random rough and tough tight end back in our day. It’s funny saying that just, you know, I was I was I was going to mention a tight end. The shortest tight end I knew that was pretty good was Delanie Walker for for the tight ends. I think he was like 6 feet or 6’1″. Like he was he was kind kind of a short for a tight end, but he still he still got it done. I was thinking of uh Jeremy Shockey cuz I still remember that play where he where he could have went for the touchdown, but he I think he specifically looked for a dude to run over on his way to the end zone. I think that was against the 49ers. My favorite memory. Is there correct from that game? He uh he he he played his whole— He literally chose violence.

Yeah. Oh, that’s how that’s just how how those tight ends are. Yeah. So when you say you have to be born a tight end, I admittedly thought of Jeremy Shockey, like the dude literally was looking for contact. He he said, “Fuck the touchdown. I want to run over you and get the touchdown.”

Exactly. And then Gronk Gronk never tried to juke anybody. He just tried to go go through him. And one play that I remember from Gronk was when he when he kept blocking that dude past the end zone where the people and the Colts.

Yeah. The Colts like talk about finishing the play. Like the whistle just of course been blown. But I think at that point he was trying to show little boy a point.

Yeah. He was trying to make a point. He I I remember in the interview afterwards like oh he was yapping so I threw him out of the club. I was his that was his words. So, but no, I I mean I miss seeing uh tight ends like that. And like, you know, I’m not asking for like tight ends to be tough and mean and stuff. They I even want to watch tight ends like Jason Witten, someone who’s reliable but also tough can block. Right nowadays, we got tight ends like Travis Kelce who more of like kind of just find a pocket, sit there and get you yards afterwards. or Kyle Pitts, you know, supposed to be a a unicorn. We you we don’t get a lot of the old school talents anymore.

Yeah, he might be a bust, but he’s still collecting the checks. He’s about to get that pension.

Yeah, I think he’ll he probably get traded.

Oh, yeah. He probably will at some point. I’m actually curious to see how uh CJ is going to come out this year. I need a bounce back from you cuz the Texans.

Yeah, there was a uh there’s definitely a uh regression or if we’re going to just call it the sophomore slump. So, I’m I’m expecting some I’m definitely expecting a bounce back up until they get bounced in January by either Baltimore, Buffalo, or Kansas City.

Yeah. Or Cincinnati,

uh, they they finally signed their their first round. They’re going to be the most interesting that I’m going to be watching on the side because their games are definitely going to be like 50 to 48 every week, right?

Oh, dude. Me and you both are going for the Burrow Chase. And that’s is specifically why I said I I uh as commissioner um I’m going to make sure that there’s even play all across. There’s not going to be no advantages because we’ve been getting screwed. We’ve been getting screwed very bad.

Okay. I’ve been getting screwed very bad. So, I’m going to make a rule that no uh no duos. And that rule got vetoed immediately by the co-commissioner.

Listen, I’ve been first in points scored the uh points for for the past two three years. It’s it’s because of my combos that I have, you know, and I plan to do it again. If if it’s not Burrow Chase, it’s gonna be McCarthy Jefferson. You know, it’s gonna be something that I could just do, you know, good combos. And if you had a great one, two punch, oh my gosh, you’re set.

No, you’re not. I was. You’re not guaranteed to win championship, but you you you’ll be in playoffs. You’ll make it harder for the ones that is trying to win.

Oh, that’s the whole point, baby. Because it’s like when the when the rest of when the rest of your lineup puts up goose eggs and you’re still biting fingernails because of two fucking— That is why. I remember there was two weeks out of the year they both combined got me 100. It’s going to put put a stop to it. It ends right now.

No, it’s we’re going to keep it going. Yeah, you could kiss that role goodbye. Anyway, but speaking of that, I mean, we could talk about the fantasy outlook and I have pulled up right here the fantasy football rankings for PPR. Now, Kyle on this is the NFL app or the NFL.com. I just, you know, went simple. I know your feelings towards the the ESPN.

Yeah. So, who number one, Jamar Chase. I mean, he won the Triple Crown last year. That’s that’s pretty obvious. I I don’t argue with that. Number two is CeeDee Lamb. That’s going to be interesting now that uh Perkins is there. you know, is he gonna is he do two things, right? Is he going to take fantasy points away or he’s going to take the attention away from him and he’s going to get even more points. So, that that’ll be something to watch. And, you know, Cowboys are going to need to score cuz Dak’s going to throw a pick or fumble. So, they’re going to have to catch up, right? They ain’t got no running game. I don’t even know who the running back is. I know they drafted Jaylen Brooks from Texas, but supposedly he’s lazy.

What? Yeah, coaches are are worried about him being lazy. Well, cuz they’ve been paying. These kids been getting paid since they were a freshman. Of course they are.

Exactly. They already got— They ain’t got to work for it. Number three is Justin Jefferson, but he’s questionable. So, it’s funny. I’m I’m looking at ESPN and yeah, they have your one and three, Jamar and Justin, but yeah, why is the stock so high on Saquon?

That’s what I’m saying. He’s the first running back on on NFL too. He’s four. Yeah. Now, I can understand it in a PPR league because— Yeah, they do. Now, do you know why they haven’t sequined? Why? I’m going to say two reasons, two words. You ready for this? Uh, let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. It’s something that you hate, but— Yes. I absolutely see no problem with it. Yes. Why do you hate the tush push? What do you got against tush push? Would you would you be be upset if I said black people? I’m just joking. I’m just joking.

Perfection. They did. They really did. Just like they did with basketball and took the white man sport and made it better.

Oh. And then Tiger Woods said, “Watch this.” And Serena said, “Hold my beer or hold my wine.”

She did, man. She did. Even baseball team, you argue. Hey, hey, Aaron. Willie Mays.

Oh, yeah. Barry, they don’t want to give him his flowers. Barry Bonds. We need to get a black person in swimming and outdo Michael Phelps. But that listen Kyle like like like you said in the beginning of the podcast. Step one is just getting in the water.

Oh man, I’m— This is I am not racist at all, but I’ve never seen an African country win the swimming Olympics. I’m not racist at all when I say that they swim like fish. That’s going to be hard to beat.

Oh shit. It’s hard to beat what some people can’t even catch, you know. But yeah, anyway. Yeah. Uh they they have Saquon over over uh over Saquon. I think it’s I think it’s because of the tush push. Uh Hurts is gonna take some touchdowns away from him. Of course, you know, I’m picking up Hurts this year. Much to the dismay people though that that works on this pod. Another that’s reason number two why I say no duos. Someone likes to pick up uh Jaylen and AJ. So I say I ain’t getting beat by— Oh yes. someone that’s heavy heavily involved in this podcast. Loves— I I think I think they they doubled down twice back to back years too.

Did she win? She didn’t win this year, right? This past year, I think.

No, one of your buddies beat me, I think. I hope.

Yeah. I don’t even know. But yeah, so they got Saquon fourth, Saquon fifth, and then Jahmyr Gibbs, who’s I kind of want to draft as my first. Not really though, because like David Montgomery got 1,000 yards rushing. I was about to say he’s going to have that second effect.

Yeah. You know, cuz like if it’s if if Gibbs rushes for 20 yards, gets down at the three, they’re going to put the bull in, you know? If rushes for 9 and he’s down at the one, you know, you know what’s going to happen.

Yeah, that’s true. But I mean, I I’ll take the the the 9.9 yards. I I won’t lie. You know, should I keep that special rule? Anything anything over 40 yards is like an extra two.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would. Yeah. Because like let’s say I draft like Jameson Williams for Detroit, right? He’s a second receiver and Malcolm Brown, but sometimes he’s got 50 yard touchdowns. So I would take, you know, the six plus the 50 that’s 11 plus the catch that’s 12 plus another two that’s 14 for one play. I’ll take that any day and that might be his only play of the whole game, you know. So I think it’s worth it. I think what we should do honestly is put points for kick and punt return yards.

I do. I have it.

Oh, never mind. Sorry. I must have missed the the meeting.

No. No. Because I I mean, yeah, you should definitely be rewarded if you get a punt return if if you turn to punt. Now, I I’ll run up the top 10 here. Uh, Puka, obvious reason. Malik Neighbors, sophomore year, obvious reasons. We able to do what he did last season with Daniel Jones. Now, he’s got a new, you know, Mississippi quarterback, home, his quarterback, Amon-Ra, obvious reasons. Brian Thompson Jr., again, another rookie receiver was able to do last year with Trevor Lawrence as top 10. the in the number 11 here. I’m surprised. Devon Achane, they got him number 12 on ESPN. They got him underneath Ashton Jeanty underneath.

Yes, they have him over Derek Henry.

Wow. On here. I don’t know where on Derek down at 19. I mean, is there— That’s crazy. Is there going to be some decline?

Huh. That’s what they said when he went to Baltimore and the guy got like 20 touchdowns. I haven’t seen it. Have you seen the man slowed down? Have you seen anyone willing to talk to him still?

Yeah. You want to get in front and try to tackle him? How? I’ll pass. I I rather fight a mountain lion.

And then that’s— And then that’s that’s where where the comedy show ends right there. Yeah. walks away, drops them. You know, I I think he should be top 10. Personally, I think he he I’m looking at all that’s that’s like being snubbed way down at the bottom on this list. What what are some notable names that you see? They got Joe Mixon at 45.

Okay. Well, stop being biased. Did you did you know Derek Henry’s middle name was Lamar? I don’t know that.

Yeah, bro. He had 1,900 yards and 16 touchdowns. How is that man not top 10? Man, it’s a machine.

Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. They got freaking uh Joe Burrow at 39. Is he is he the the first QB though or is it Josh Allen? Who? Josh Allen is above him.

Yep. 28. Who is the first QB though? Oh, on mine it’s Lamar. Lamar then Josh Allen. I’m looking looking I’m looking. This is bad with the with the lag time.

Yeah, they actually uh— Yeah, Lamar is higher. No, no, no, it’s not. No, it’s not. Josh is the first one. It’s Josh, Lamar, Jayden.

Okay. Then then Jayden. Gotcha. Now, one one person

that I I think is kind of high. Maybe I’m really wrong. Uh Rashee Rice, right? He got into some law trouble last year and then got hurt. They have him at 35 here. I I don’t know. I mean, I get it. It’s Patrick Mahomes, but Mahomes uses anybody. You know, their backup tight end will get a two touchdown game every every month or so. It’s almost like roulette on who to start cuz I picked last year. The only one you you should start on the Chiefs offense is Mahomes cuz remember even Kelce what a year or two ago was awful. You know, there there was some slippage from from a fantasy standpoint. There was some slippage.

Oh, yeah. I don’t think Mahomes was even top 12 last year in fantasy.

I’m pretty sure. I’m pretty confident that. Let’s see. I’m going to scroll down here. I mean, well, the first rookie on here is obviously Ashton Jeanty at number 13, which is the expectations are through the roof with this guy. And that’s probably going to be a stay away because you just— Oh, for me it is too. You have him over Christian McCaffrey.

Yeah. Now the only reason why you have him is because of part of the injury. Yeah. If— Yeah. Go ahead. So I was going to say you want to know where your boy Drake Maye is. I’m going to say he’s the 12th quarterback, 13th quarterback. I literally well I don’t know what uh yeah just just uh just just I just saw his name. I literally just saw his name and I lost it. That tells you how way down low it is.

Damn. You tell me you’re going to have to control F it.

Oh, I’m definitely going to have to F it. Let me see on mine. Oh. Oh, I called it. Drake Maye is the 12th quarterback on NFL.

Damn it. Shit. Where is this? That’s never mind. It uh it actually lets me sort by position. Okay, here we go. You said he’s the what quarterback? He’s a 12th quarterback. He’s the 15th on here at 121. That’s not bad. I don’t I don’t mind that. That’s that’s that’s better than half of of the the NFL quarterbacks.

Oh, he’s the 19th one. Tua is just— Man, you just hope Tua would just— Man, I just walk. Yeah. So, you know, it’s like it’s that that meme where everyone is like uh I think it’s that Christmas meme that comes out or no, it’s Thanksgiving and then they’re passing a plate to Tua and he’s like, “Happy Easter.”

Oh, yeah. I was like, “That fucked up.” Dang. Stroud on here is 20th, bro. He’s 21st.

Oh, he’s he’s right next to Trevor Lawrence and Cam Ward on mine. Oh, he’s underneath Matthew Stafford on here.

Yeah, same. JJ McCarthy’s above Matthew Stafford.

Yep.

Hey. Uh, uh, raccoon eating dude from Carolina. He, uh, he’s the 56 wide receiver. Xavier Legette.

Yep. Boy eating shit. Yeah, he definitely from the backwoods.

Oh, you you could tell you could tell just by his accent. Yeah, he man, if he walked in on the Klan rally, he’d be welcome.

Mhm. Man, it hurts to see when I go to wide receiver rankings, the first wide Patriots wide receiver is number 37, Stefon Diggs. That means there’s some backups or second stringers. We’ll call wide receiver twos on other teams that are better than our first wide receiver.

Yeah. Well, I mean, he’s busy doing what he does on yachts and shit. Yeah.

But anyway, that was that was our little our little fantasy outlook looking at rankings, starting our strategy, starting our drafting plans. Yeah. But let’s— Okay, that’s enough out of here. Let’s um let’s talk about the greatest Super Bowl teams that we watched or just in in history. right now. I’m going to name a team that actually lost. You want to go one through five or like how you— I’m I think I’m just going to do like like a top three. Now, I’m I’m judging this based off the players that year. That’s what I’m um basing it off. And my first pick was actually the losers of the Super Bowl. And that’s the greatest show on turf, the St. Louis Rams. They had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven Pro Bowlers and five first team all pros. Four of them being on offense obviously, right? You got obviously Kurt Warner, Marshall Faulk, who had 83 catches that year as a running back. Isaac Bruce, Torry Holt, one two wide receivers, both over a thousand yards. I don’t know how many how often that happens. Hall of Famer Orlando Pace. And then one of the greatest quarterbacks of our time that kind of gets forgotten, Aeneas Williams,

but they end up losing to that team to the Patriots in the final seconds of the game with a with a 48 yard field goal. Now, this team had the nickname, obviously, everyone knows the greatest show on turf for a reason. Kurt Warner almost had 5,000 yards and 40 touchdowns. Marshall Faulk, 1300 yards, 12 touchdowns, 83 catches, 700 yards, nine touchdowns. As I mentioned before, the two wide receivers, both over 1,000 yards.

this team all around and their coach got got their nickname for a reason. But that’s my number one. Do you do you do do you want me to name my next one or do you do you want to get get your your first one in?

Well, we’re looking at greatest Super Bowl teams. I’m looking at it based off

how which teams had the most Hall of Famers played in the game. And that’s that’s that’s good, too. Um, I’m going see if you can guess. And your hint is they met each other in the Super Bowl three times.

Okay. Well, I’m going guess it’s the 49ers and the Cowboys. Well, how are they going to be in the Super Bowl? Oh, I’ve been drinking. I’ve been slipping some some other stuff in in in my drink, too. So, they met a Super Bowl three times or so, I guess. So, yes.

Could I know what years? If I give it a year, if I do that, that might give it away. Okay. But it’s not going to be like— It’s not going to be like Packers Chiefs, right? Like old school.

Okay. It’s It’s old school, but it’s not Packers Chiefs. It’s old school. These two Super Bowl matchups, two of the three got beat by the Packers and Chiefs.

So, is it is it recent now? I’m just throwing off. Is it Steelers Cowboys?

Bingo. There you go. With 23 Hall of Famers.

Damn. Dang, Pittsburgh, brother. That’s that’s that’s a whole starting offense and defense plus a kicker. Let’s just run. So, if we talking about the greatest Super Bowl teams, like, you know, we’re going to have to you will have to start there. So, that’s Super Bowl 10 and Super Bowl 13 in the late 70s. Pittsburgh. Terry Bradshaw. Okay. Oh, let’s try and name me some for Pittsburgh. Okay, easy. Terry Bradshaw.

Okay, that’s one. Mean Joe Greene. That’s two.

Rod Woodson came later. Yeah, that’s later. That’s the third time they met in the 90s. That that would have been— Did you know, fun fact, Ed O’Neal, the actor, was on that team as as a practice squad.

Did not know that. Yeah, he he he played with Terry Bradshaw and was on the line with Mean Joe Greene for the practice squad. didn’t make it the whole season, but he was he was on— Yeah. Yeah. He was he was on the team.

Okay. So, I got Bradshaw. I got Mean Joe Greene. And that’s my mind. Is it Jack Ham?

Okay. That’s another— There’s— There was— There’s also a Jack Lambert. That’s another. All right. That’s four. That was a three defense.

Yep. Mel Blount. That’s five. There you go. The cornerback. Um, shit. James Harrison played like he was in in in in that era.

Um, okay. I’m trying to think of offensive players, but like— Oh, uh, Mike Mike Webster, the the the center Mike Webster.

Yes. Yes. Uh, he he was known for his biceps. He had supposedly had huge biceps. Didn’t he die recently? I think so. Um, okay. So, I said I’m about to look it up. I said Bradshaw. I said Webster. I said Lambert Ham Greene Blount. Yeah, he died a long time ago. There was I guess there was someone else I was thinking of died in 2002. Oh, damn. It’s 23 years ago. Um,

so I’ve named seven. I’m surprised you didn’t I’m definitely surprised you didn’t name one guy on offense from Pittsburgh. On offense is— Is it a receiver? And a running back and I just gave you the names. And a running back? Come on. Really? It’s not— Dude, that’s the— I know. It’s I’m trying to think of of this is still Steelers, right? This is all Steelers. We said— Yeah, this is still on Steelers. Uh uh Franco Harris.

Thank you. Now, who’s a receiver?

There’s actually two. Two receivers.

Damn. I don’t think I’m going to I’m going to get these. I’ve I’ve named I’ve named eight Hall of Famers on on one team. So, I mean, I— All right. I can’t believe you can’t name these receivers. Uh, but the the rest of the rest of I got eight. All right. I got You did. You did. You did good. You did good. You did good. But the rest of them you probably wasn’t going to get cuz it’s like ownership and shit. So, the receivers, Lynn Swann and John Stallworth.

Okay. I I know both of them. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I I was gonna I was gonna say there was one play there was one play if I would have described it would have gave it a name away where he kind of made like a jump diving catch where he kind of caught kind of like unlike what uh what’s his name did in the Super Bowl against the Falcons where yeah no Lynn Swann actually caught it when he going down to the ground.

Okay. And we didn’t and they didn’t have replay back then. We knew that that was a catch. Uh, no. It was a drop if it was replay. I’m telling you. I’m telling you. All right. Whatever.

Uh, Chuck Noll, Bill Nunn, the Rooney, Art Rooney, Donnie Shell, not sure who that is, actually. Well, that’s literally Chuck Chuck Chuck Noll is the coach, right?

Yes. Yeah. And the Rooneys were the owners. Um, yeah. All right. So, that’s Steelers. Can you try the Cowboys?

Staubach. Okay. That’s one. Um,

was Ed “Too Tall” Jones on that team?

I’m sure he was, but he’s not he’s not a— Yeah, I don’t know if he’s Hall of Famer. Um, there’s a there’s a guy on that there’s a guy on the Cowboys that won Super Bowl MVP and he lost. I think his name was Danny White.

I thought I heard of that before, too. Is I might have to look that up just to make sure that you’re right on that. But you got— If you’re thinking of Hall of Famer, you got the last name right, but it ain’t Danny.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, it’s White. I know it’s white. I I don’t know. I don’t know if it’s— Yeah. Yeah. He’s— He won. He won Super Bowl MVP, but but they lost. Randy White, but but his his his last name is White. I don’t know if it’s Danny. I thought it was Dan. I said Randy White. Randy White.

There you go. Yeah, it was Randy. I said Dan. Okay. Okay. So, Staubach Randy White. Um Tony Dorsett. He wasn’t in the 70s.

No,

not yet. It was a little before his time. Yeah. Who else for time? You want me to just run through the list? Mike Ditka. I’m just kidding.

Oh my god. Jay, wait. Jay Novacek. No. Okay. I thought I think he was a tight end, but I think he played for I don’t know. I think he played for Tennessee, actually.

All right. Um Yeah. Go ahead. Go ahead. Run. There. Well, there’s definitely three names that you could have probably heard of. Yeah. No, you you’ve heard of them. I mean, I’m surprised you didn’t guess. Drew Pearson.

Uh, okay. Yes. Gil Brandt and Tex Schramm. I I don’t know the the last one. I’ll be honest. Tex. Yeah. I don’t know the last one. I think he he should have been on. I think it was on. Oh, I I was assuming he was a player. No.

Let’s see. He just Peter just said he worked for him but he was more on the TV side. Um yeah, Cliff Harris, Rayfield Wright, and Mel Renfro. That’s that’s it for the Cowboy side.

Oh, Mel Renfro, cornerback.

Yep. Yep. So, that’s uh Yeah, that’s the two Super Bowls that have the most Hall of Famers. So that would have to be like the greatest Super Bowl team when if you’re just talking about just teams assembled, you know, the next let’s see and of course it’s you know that’s kind of like skewing to more historical versus what’s happening now because you know we’ll know like 20 30 years from now who gets into the Hall of Fame from the Super Bowls that we watched recently. If you want to talk about greatest games itself, you know, that’s, you know, that’s like a different conversation. I’m just I’m just looking at, okay, which are the greatest teams that was assembled. I mean, yeah. Now, mine of recent years, the greatest team that I’ve ever seen assembled was um, of course, the Legion of Boom, right? When they— Yeah. They’re going to have at least I’d say about four. You think um they’ll have about four to go in. So I think Kam Chancellor makes it. Not for his ballot. Sherman makes it. I think Sherman makes it. I think Lynch makes it.

Yes. And then I think Pete Carroll makes it.

Yeah. So that’s four Hall of Famers on that team. Now, the most stacked I think of of recent is the Buccaneers when they won’t won the Super Bowl. You had Brady. Gronk, Evans. Yeah. Godwin. Antonio Brown. Godwin. Godwin was on the team. No, I’m talking about now. Are we talking about we talking about stacked teams that has a legitimate shot of getting into the Hall of Fame? We putting Chris Godwin in that list.

Well, no. I mean, I’m not putting— Okay. Leonard Fournette. Okay. Okay. You’re just— Okay. If you’re just focusing on— Yeah. But like like Hall of Famers there, there’s three, right? Evans, Gronk, and Brady.

Yeah. Right. If Antonio Brown didn’t do what he did, Brown would probably have made it, you know? I don’t I don’t think Brown makes it.

Yeah, he was on that trajectory if he actually didn’t catch CTE. I think it was that hit from Vontaze Burfict. That was definitely that hit. Someone on the on the defensive side that was on the team there at time that already won a Super Bowl. JPP he he was on that team. He he started he he might be a Hall of Famer.

That’s right. You know, um him and his nine fingers. Yeah. or shit I I honestly I I think it’s eight.

Um who— I mean Sherman. No, Sherman Sherman wasn’t on on on the team yet. What are you talking about? The— No, no, no. I’m talking about the Buccaneers. Sherman was on the Buccaneers after that. Richard Sherman. Richard Sherman, dude. Yeah. I don’t remember that shit. I promise you. I’ll been long retired. not that long. And then um what’s what’s his name? Yeah, he played for Tampa Bay in 2021. I know what I’m talking about. Where where did I miss this? Darrelle Revis is already in the Hall of Fame.

Did he retire right after the— He won a Super Bowl with the Patriots?

because I I mean I’ve I vaguely remember but I don’t really like I wanted remember— Well, yeah. I mean he’s he’s he’s been out eight years now.

I’m trying to say. Yeah, he got inducted two years ago. I think we just like brushed by it probably. Bro, that is crazy. I because I’m looking at the Super Bowl between uh the one that that should have the Seahawks that still pisses me off and it has one Darrelle Revis and I was like whoa I did not know he was already in the hall.

Yeah, he got with the Marcus Peters, Zach Thomas, Joe Thomas.

Okay, that’s good though. I just didn’t know he was in already. You know, in in another episode we should do the greatest hall of fame class. redo the one from NFL Network. All of them from NFL. NFL Network, ESPN, uh, Pro Football Talk, all that shit. But yeah, so those are those those are my three stacked teams. I think at least each of them have four Hall of Famers in them. I’m trying to see which team had the next most from back in the day. And there was one where the Raiders had nine. Nine Hall of Famers on one team.

Yep. Is that the like Tim Tim Brown or— Dude, I’m I’m looking in I’m looking back at the 80s.

Oh, the 80s. That’s Ken Stabler, I think. Uh after Stabler.

Okay. Yeah, this would have been— After Stabler. This is a Rich Gannon. I’m just kidding. No. Uh Marcus Allen, Cliff Branch, uh Al Davis, of course, Tom Flores, Ray Guy, Mike Haynes, Kyle, I’m I’m going to play a game with you.

What’s up? All right. And this and the pod, we’re going to name NFL players. the last the first letter of the last name you of the previous player you have to find an NFL player that has that first name. So I say Tom Brady you would say um Brian Urlacher and then I I would have to find a U. Right. You already lost with a— Yeah. So that’s but that’s that’s that’s just how how the game game goes.

We’ll see how we’ll see how long we can do that. Do you want to go go uh go first or no? Cuz I’m sick cuz I might lose quick.

Huh? I may lose. Was that you?

Nah. No. No. No. You’re good. Okay. Okay, I’m going to say um let’s just start with Joe Montana,

Mike Singletary.

Okay, now see this is harder than I than I thought, but I’m going to say Steve Young. I think it’s over now. It’s over. I can’t think of no one that starts with a Y. It’s hard now. Usually usually how it plays it’s um people do just like um like athletes in general, right? So like Yao Ming, you know.

Oh man, that would have been it right there. That’s definitely we’re going to have to we’re going to have to definitely do that uh in another pod.

Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, we’ll have to research the names. But yeah, but I mean we’re we’re we’re about to hit the hit the hour mark. I’m down to to end it there if you want.

I’m good. I’m just ready for football to come back because— Oh, dude. Sundays are getting a little bit dull in the evenings. I need to hear need to hear that uh NBC uh theme song where you know well back in our time when it was you know we had to crunch time to get those last minute assignments in and you know you’re going to you know you about to uh be staying up past 12 1:00 cuz you’re going to just sit and watch the whole damn game.

Oh yeah, for sure. And you’re like, “Okay, I really have to finish this now.” Remember trying trying to rush to do calculus work.

Yeah, but you bet your ass next week I’ll be doing mock drafts. That’s going down. No doing. So you can you can do all the mock drafts you want and fade me out all you want. I’m just kidding.

No, no, no. Thank you everybody for listening to this episode. We will catch y’all on the next one. Peace.

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Fantasy Football: Hype vs. Value

Fantasy football season is heating up, and in this episode, we’re separating hype from actual value, because let’s face it, not every big name deserves a first-round draft spot. From overrated fantasy picks to teams that got straight-up robbed of a Super Bowl ring, Episode 36 covers it all. And yes, we also talk about our new fear of mountain lions and why we’re not messing with planes anymore!

NFL Preseason Kicks Off: Lions vs. Chargers in the Hall of Fame Game

The NFL preseason officially begins with the Hall of Fame Game featuring the Lions vs. Chargers, and we’re breaking down the first signs of football life since the offseason drought. Whether it’s hype-worthy or just background noise while you prep your fantasy draft board, we got thoughts.

Fantasy Football Rankings: Who’s Worth the Pick?

We’re calling out some overhyped fantasy players (looking at you, Bijan), debating PPR draft strategies, and talking about which rookies and WR duos might pop off. Plus, is it finally time to ban fantasy stack duos from leagues? The co-commissioner doesn’t think so.

  • Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, and C.J. Stroud come up in the convo
  • Tyler Warren and the rise of real-deal tight ends
  • Drake Maye, Brian Thomas Jr., Malik Nabers, rookie radar locked

Super Bowl Snubs & Ringless Legends

We’re digging into the greatest NFL teams that never got a ring. From the Greatest Show on Turf Rams to the Legion of Boom, we shine a light on some of the best squads to never win it all. The debate even spirals into Steelers vs. Cowboys Super Bowl history and which squad had the most Hall of Famers.

Off-Topic Segment: Mountain Lions, Planes & Chaos

Isaiah’s got new fears unlocked: mountain lions, planes, cruises, and any other scenario where the ground isn’t involved. Kyle? He’s got a tequila decanter waiting to be filled and a cat with “enforcer” energy.

Also:

  • The “name game” returns: NFL player initials edition
  • Fantasy rule changes get vetoed in real-time
  • Gronk and Delanie Walker appreciation segment

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